Post Three: A Good Idea?

To be completed after you have read chapters 6, 7, and 8

Early on in the book, Nolan comes up with a plan on secretly videotaping Bubba in action.  He then creates a web site and lots of links to “give Bubba Bixby a little trouble.”  Knowing what you do about Digital Citizenship, do you think Nolan should be posting all of the links like “Bubba Caught in the Act” and “Bubba’s Big Butt”?  What is the difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge?  Do you think Nolan is correct by doing this to Bubba?

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55 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by EC12 on May 17, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    I think that Nolan really SHOULDN’T do this, one, because what if he was found out? Two, it is broadcasted all over the world! When he only saw two visitors, he was annoyed, but I was actually scared! What would he do next? The difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge is: standing up for yourself is like sticking to what is right, but not going over-board. What Nolan is doing is exacting revenge, getting even, maybe even more so. Nolan is deffinitely not correct by doing this to Bubba.

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    • Posted by EC5 on May 17, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      I share the same point as it is”broadcasted all over the world” except in different words. Great job!

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    • Posted by EC20 on May 19, 2011 at 12:15 am

      I really agree with you!

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    • Posted by ec13 on May 30, 2011 at 5:49 pm

      I so think that nolan is going over bord and is also doing a good thing.

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    • Posted by EC14 on May 30, 2011 at 9:07 pm

      I also think it is wrong for Nolan to put things about Bubba on the web because it can never be taken off and everybody can see it, or as you said “broadcast all over the world”. Great post EC12.

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  2. I do not think that Nolan should be posting all of those insulting links about Bubba.
    The difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge is when you stand up for yourself it completely fixes the problem, (or fixing part of the problem) and when you exact revenge, it’s only making it worse. It is only making things worse because when you’re mean to a bully, they can be twice as mean to you.
    Nolan isn’t correct by doing this to Bubba. He’s not correct because it’s mean the way it is, and he’ll probably be meaner to Nolan than he is now.

    I actually partly agree with Nolan because he will have a piece of his own medicine. But it is still not right to do that to someone even though they are that mean.

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  3. EC12, you do have a good point!

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  4. Posted by EC5 on May 17, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Nolan shouldn’t be doing this. What I learned in Digital Citizenship is that you shouldn’t say bad things about people on the internet and it is usually not good to put anybody’s faces on the internet without their permission. Also, Nolan is doing this without his parents permission and barely gets his mom’s credit card number without her finding out. Even though Nolan thinks he is doing the right thing, he isn’t. The difference for sticking up for yourself and revenge is that sticking up for yourself is just holding your ground and not letting the bully push you around but revenge, is more trying to do something mean back to the person who was mean to you but that doesn’t make it right. Nolan is not correct for doing this to Bubba because he doesn’t know who is seeing his pictures on the internet and he could get into some serious trouble.

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    • Posted by EC12 on May 17, 2011 at 10:04 pm

      I agree with what you learned in Digital Citizenship. Personally, I don’t think that any mom would give her son her credit card number. I know that MY mom wouldn’t trust me with that.

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    • Posted by ec 17 on May 20, 2011 at 12:38 am

      I agree that posting other people’s faces on the internet is a terrible thing to do without their permission. Bubba might be able to track down whoever did it and if he’s able to, Nolan will be in HUGE trouble.

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    • Posted by EC-4 on May 22, 2011 at 8:16 pm

      I completely agree with you. Great post!

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    • Posted by EC14 on May 30, 2011 at 9:14 pm

      I agree with you in that you shouldn’t put other peoples names on line without their permission. Nice post EC5.

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  5. Posted by ec 16 on May 17, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    I think Nolan should not be doing this. In Digital Citizenship I learned that you should not be saying bad stuff about people because it’s just like you are saying it face-to-face and I don’t think that Nolan would want to say all that stuff face-to-face to Bubba. Also he has not taken
    his parents permission and this a dangerous stuff being handled by 5th grader. And if someone is mean to you doesn’t mean that you have to be mean to him/her. This is not the right thing to do.

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    • Posted by EC2 on May 18, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      EC16, I think that you’re completely right about Nolan not having his parents permission and how bad that is, especially in this condition.

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    • Posted by EC22 on May 19, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      EC16, you are so right there is a big difference beetween standing up for your self and revenge.

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    • Posted by ec 17 on May 20, 2011 at 12:43 am

      I totally agree that Nolan would never say this stuff face-to-face with Bubba. Bubba would kill him! And if Bubba finds out that Shredderman is Nolan, Nolan will definitely be it trouble. HUGE trouble!

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    • Posted by EC8 on May 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm

      True, Nolan wouldn’t say this in front of Bubba. Great job!

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    • Posted by EC19 on May 23, 2011 at 12:38 am

      I think your right that Nolan wouldn’t say that stuff to Bubba. Great post!

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  6. EC 16,
    you have a great point! I TOTALLY agree with you.

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  7. EC5,
    great post! You certainly have a good point.
    Good thing that you learned all of that important stuff.

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  8. Posted by EC2 on May 18, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I don’t think Nolan should put up those things about Bubba even if it’s true because he could he could hurt Bubba as well as himself. And it’s even meaner than what Bubba did to the kids. The difference between standing up for yourself and taking revenge is that you become a bully yourself if you take revenge like Nolan did, but if you stand up for yourself and just say to Bubba that “Nerd” isn’t my name and things like that it would solve the problem without endangering you. I think what Nolan did to Bubba is horrible and mean.

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  9. Posted by EC18 on May 18, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    I don’t think Nolan should be doing all this stuff. I think if he told a teacher to watch Bubba, they would catch him, or he would just stop since teachers are watching. The difference between stading up for yourself and exacting revenge is that exacting revenge is like being a bully to a bully and standing up for yourself is like telling a teacher or telling the bully to stop so you don’t get mean and make the ugly angrier. I don’t think Nolan is correct by doing this to Bubba because then Bubba gets bullied and since he doesn’t know who’s doing everything, he gets meaner to EVERYONE instead of one person.

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  10. Posted by EC1 on May 18, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    I think Nolan should not be doing this because it can make a person sad and hurt. Standing up for yourself is better than saying and showing bad things on the internet about somebody. I do not think Nolan is correct about doing this because if his parents found out he would probably get in huge trouble so Nolan should not be doing this.

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  11. Posted by ec10 on May 18, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    I think that Nolan should and shouldn’t make the site, I think he should because it is about the only way to catch Bubba. But I think he shouldn’t because if the parents or teachers find out about the links they will be really mad because it is REALLY inappropriate.
    The difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge is that standing up for yourself is when someone bully’s you, you stand up for yourself and tell him that his actions are wrong. But when your getting revenge is that maybe the bully deserved it but your actions may also be wrong then.
    I think that Nolan is kind of incorrect because he is getting revenge but in a bad way because he is making all of those innapropriate links.

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  12. Posted by EC20 on May 19, 2011 at 12:14 am

    To be honest me and my mom were actually just talking about this. It is not right for Nolan to be making this site and all of those links. The difference between standing up for yourself and revenge is standing up for yourself is like telling Bubba “You know what Bubba, I am sick of you treating me badly and calling me names. If you don’t stop then I am going to tell the principal or tell your mom.” Revenge is what Nolan is doing making the website about Bubba Bixby. This is not correct for Nolan to be doing this for Bubba Bixby.

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  13. Posted by ec7 on May 19, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    I think that it was a good idea to put up a website for bullying but I don’t think that it was a good idea to put it all on Bubba. Maybe Nolan could have put up the important videos like the “flip-o-rama” because that shows him bullying right handed but I don’t think that he should mention Bubba’s name and maybe he could blur out his face. I also think that he shouldn’t have put up those jokes about Bubba because it’s not good to just be mean back to the person who is mean to you.

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    • Posted by EC22 on May 19, 2011 at 10:32 pm

      I so agree Being mean to the person who is mean is not doing any thing it is just making another problem.

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  14. Posted by EC22 on May 19, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I think it is not right for Nolan to post all of those links just because Bubba is a bully you do not need to drop all the rules and become being a bully to stop the bully. Standing up for your self is when you tell the bully three times nicely to stop then you tell an adult and they would handle it. I think Nolan is not right doing this because he is becoming a bully to stop a bully Nolan should be telling someone but not making fun of the bully.

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  15. Sorry EC2, I think I might have not said it clearly enough. I’m trying to tell you that Nolan is giving Bubba a piece of his own medicine. I should have said ” I actually agree with Nolan because BUBBA will be getting a piece of his own medicine.

    Thanks for commenting on my post though!

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  16. Posted by EC6 on May 20, 2011 at 12:01 am

    I do not think that Nolan should be doing this because if someone is mean to you it does not give you the right that you should hurt them back again. Another reason that he should not do this is because when Bubba finds out that he did he is going to bully Nolan even more. Standing up for yourself is not giving someone revenge that will hurt their feelings, it is going up to that person and telling them how you feel.

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  17. Posted by ec 17 on May 20, 2011 at 12:33 am

    Even though Bubba bullies Nolen all the time, Nolan shouldn’t have created the website at all. What he did was rude and unkind and he is doing the opposite of being a good digital citizen. I do agree that Bubba shouldn’t bully others but Nolen should use a better approach than insulting him on the internet. There is a big difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge. If you are exacting revenge then you are doing something mean to get back at the bully. It’s sort of like bullying the bully. Standing up for yourself is a lot different. You just simply: try to avoid being around the bully, tell the bully to stop it, ignore the bully completely or if none of the above works tell a parent or his/her teacher. So the bottom line is, there is a big difference between exacting revenge and stand up for yourself. Make sure you try not to exact revenge, especially in the case of a bully.

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  18. Posted by ec15 on May 20, 2011 at 12:41 am

    I think that Nolan should not be posting these links. I think he should do something about Bubba but not what he is doing. What he is doing is sort of teasing Bubba but not standing up to him. Revenge is when you do something mean back to someone for something they had done to you in the past. Standing up for yourself is when someone being bullied stops a bully by getting help. I think that what Nolan is doing is incorrect.

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  19. Posted by EC8 on May 20, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    I think that Nolan is taking a huge risk here because what if someone found out it was him? He would be in HUGE trouble. And Shredderman? D-O-N-E. Done. All in all, I think that it is not a good idea to do this because you can see it anywhere in the world. I think that he should tell people about what Bubba is doing, but not go to matters this extreme. I think that Nolan should not do this because from what we know about Digital Citizenship, you shouldn’t put faces on the web because this is violating their privacy. The difference between standing up for yourself and exacting revenge is that you should stand up for yourself, but don’t bully the bully!

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    • Posted by EC-4 on May 22, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      I like the bit of humor that you put in your post. Nolan could really get in trouble for this.

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  20. Posted by EC-4 on May 21, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    I do not think that Nolan should be posting all these links about Bubba, making fun of him and teasing him. Even though Bubba was mean to many kids, he doesn’t deserve to get teased back. Nolan is over- exaggerating sticking up for himself by becoming a bully himself and doing the same things to Bubba that Bubba has done to other people. This will only make the whole situation worse because it will make Bubba want to tease other people more because he feels angry and bad about himself. This is the whole reason bullies become bullies in the first place.

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  21. Posted by EC9 on May 23, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    I don’t think Nolan should be posting that stuff, because that’s just going TOO far. Standing up for yourself is like doing something that tells the bully not to do what they are doing and not to do it again. Where as exacting revenge is like, well, exactly what Nolan is doing. I don’t think he is correct on this one.

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  22. Posted by ec14 on May 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    The difference between standing up for yourself and revenge is that standing up for yourself isn’t hurting anybody and revenge could hurt their feelings. I think Nolan shouldn’t do this to Bubba because retaliation is worse than working things out in other ways.

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  23. Posted by ec3 on May 30, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    I think Nolan should not post Bubba’s Big Butt, or other inappropriate things, but everything else is okay. The other things are okay because then the teacher’s will know what Bubba is doing at school. In this case, revenge is posting something mean about someone. Saying, “Hey, I don’t like to be called that” or “Please don’t do that” is an example of standing up for yourself. This is better because you’re not being a bully or mean like the other person is if you were trying to get revenge.

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  24. Posted by ec13 on May 30, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Yes and no because some aspects of what Nolan is doing is good such as: catching Bubba in the act to get him to stop Bulling, getting kid to post there feelings about Bubba, and helping the school community have a laugh about Bubba .Also it is bad because Bubba name is getting all over the internet and is insulting Bubba .The difference from revenge and standing up for yourself is revenge is doing just what the person did to you. Standing up for you is trying to get it to stop.

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